No one would have predicted that one of the biggest stories to kick off 2025 would be that Joe Rogan’s wildly popular podcast would host what some are calling the largest gospel presentation since the days of Billy Graham. 

As the saying goes, that wasn’t on my bingo card. 

Rogan, a comedian and cultural commentator with millions of listeners worldwide, recently interviewed Wesley Huff, a rising voice in Christian apologetics. For many believers, this episode was a reason to celebrate—a clear, compelling presentation of the gospel on one of the largest platforms available today.

Yet, what’s just as remarkable as the interview itself is how Huff arrived at this moment. Huff’s story reminds us that God uses the diligent work of his people, often in ways we can’t foresee.

Faithfulness in the Little Things

Huff’s journey to this milestone moment did not happen overnight. 

Today, Huff serves as the Central Canada Director for Apologetics Canada and is completing a Ph.D. in New Testament at the University of Toronto’s Wycliffe College, giving him the platform and credentials to be viewed as an expert. But for many years, he studied and worked in obscurity.

When he was pursuing his Masters of Theological Studies from Tyndale University, he worked in a garden center moving dirt. When he started his doctoral studies, he worked as a delivery driver for a juice company delivering juice to coffee shops around Toronto during the day and giving lectures at churches on nights and weekends.

I was aware of Huff prior to his Rogan appearance from hearing him on various Christian podcasts, which he records from a small office at his church that used to be a closet. I enjoy this detail because it reminds me that God’s call often comes without fanfare. 

Instead, it often comes in quiet moments of faithfulness, diligence, and humility. Huff’s studio may be small, but his platform has grown steadily because he has been faithful to his calling.

In fact, it was one of these podcast conversations where Huff participated in an informal debate about the authenticity of various ancient manuscripts that brought him to Rogan’s attention, and it was Huff’s years of dedication to his field of study that earned him an invitation to one of the largest platforms in the world. When Huff sat across from Rogan, it wasn’t just his theological expertise that earned him a seat at the table—it was years of consistent, faithful work. 

Good & Faithful Servant, Not ‘Famous’ Servant

There is certainly a lesson here that faithfulness in small areas of responsibility may lead to greater responsibility (see the Parable of the Talents.) But not every Christian historian, theologian, or apologist will receive a platform like Rogan’s, even those who have been working faithfully in this field much longer than Huff.

Huff himself addressed the application of the Parable of the Talents to our lives saying, 

We’re not called to be influential, we’re not called to be a public persona, we’re not called to be famous. It’s not ‘well done, good and famous servant.’ That is not our call. This is a testimony to being faithful. No matter what platform that garners you, if you’re making an impact because of your faithfulness, if you’re just living out your daily life in your workplace when that’s hard, or with family members, or with friends, or just being a regular, faithful testimony in your daily life, that’s all God is requiring… You don’t need to be Billy Graham. It would be amazing if you could be Billy Graham, but it’s ‘good and faithful servant,’ we just need to be called to faithfulness.

Most of us work in obscurity, serving God in ways that may never garner public recognition. Yet, our call remains the same: to work faithfully wherever God has placed us, knowing that our ultimate reward is not found in worldly success but in the pleasure of our Master.

Who is Your Joe Rogan?

When we work faithfully at what we have been called to do, we bring glory to God, we serve our neighbors, and we experience more personal fulfillment. But there is something else about the story of Huff and Rogan that jumps out to me.

Rogan saw Huff doing good work and wanted to learn more. That’s what led to the invitation, a conversation, and ultimately (near the end of the three-plus hour podcast) the opportunity to share the gospel. His good work and pursuit of excellence were just as much of an apologetic as the ancient manuscripts he discussed. Rogan likely would not have listened to Huff’s defense of Christ’s resurrection if Huff couldn’t defend his own scholarship first.

So think about this: who is watching you in your work? It may be someone influential like your CEO, it may be a colleague you see regularly, or it may be a child looking up to you. You may get a chance to talk to them, or you may never know who they are. Regardless, will they see you working “with all your heart, as working for the Lord” (Col. 3:23)? If someone watched you working, would they want to know more about what you do and what motivates you?

So while we celebrate the great cultural moment of having a Christian apologist on such a large platform, let’s also consider how we can represent Christ in our own fields. If we want people around us to ask about our faith, we must first be seen as faithful. You may not work in apologetics, but your work is an apologetic no matter what you are called to do.